On Wednesday, PPAI Interim President Bob McLean, Jr., CPA, CAE, CEM, appeared on “Delivering Marketing Joy,” a podcast hosted by Kirby Hasseman of Hasseman Marketing.

The episode examined McLean’s new role at the Association, including what surprised him about it and what changes he hopes to implement, some of the people and organizations in the industry that are impressing him with their work, and a look at McLean’s professional background. McLean and Hasseman also discussed professional mentors and what they teach us, with McLean saying the most impactful mentor in his career gave him the confidence to “go out and be more than I was,” which instilled his confidence and ultimately led to his current position at PPAI.

Asked to make a prediction for the future, McLean said, “We’ll all be together again in Vegas in January 2022.”

To listen to the full episode of “Delivering Marketing Joy,” click here.